My sister (8 years old) and I are debating (I'm 16) on who the oldest fairy is. I say Clarion or the Ministers of the Seasons. She says Fairy Mary. Someone want to help end our discussion.
My sister (8 years old) and I are debating (I'm 16) on who the oldest fairy is. I say Clarion or the Ministers of the Seasons. She says Fairy Mary. Someone want to help end our discussion.
Well, technically, it's Clarion. According to what she told Tinker Bell, her love story with Milori happened few years after the creation of Pixie Hollow, so Clarion came to the world in that period, or when Pixie Hollow was created, making her older than Mary, but if older than ALL fairies, I dunno.
Er,my friends and I have the same idea that the Queen is the oldest.We all think that she looks more mature.And I think she is as old as the Pixie Hollow.
Thanks you guys! My sister finally admits to me being right. Challenging my knowledge on Fairies, hahaha.
According to one of Disney Fairies novels before Clarion fairies had other queen. Which doesn't make her the oldest or the first fairy in history of Neverland. Yet Queen Clarion is probably one of the oldest fairies in Pixie Hollow.
In Neverbeast it is revealed that Pixie Holow is over a thousand years at least. The Neverbeast sleeps for a thousand years and there was evidence he'd been awake before...so Pixie Hollow is 1000+ years old. When Fawn says he has to go back to sleep and says he sleeps for a tousand years they say they'll never see him again...meaning they'll be dead. So fairies do not live for a tousand years. Since fairies do not live for 1000 years, Queen Calrion can't be as old as Pixie Hollow, since Pixie Hollow is at least a thousand years old. Also, Queen Clarion did not know about the Neverbeast, so she wasn't around when he came before....so again, she's not as old as Pixie Hollow and since there were fairies around the last time he woke up, there were fairies before her. Whether or not she's the oldest living fairy, I do not know (though if she is the oldest living she should share her secret because there are several who look older than her. Dewey for example), but she's definatly not the first fairy. In the first movie when they are upset that spring won't come to the mainland one fairy says it must have happened before, then the other says it was called the Ice Age...which leads me to believe that fairies were around then as well...much much longer than a thousand years. "When the first baby laughed for the first time" So fairies ahve been around as long as humans have. Thef first homosapiens came about 200,000 years ago...according to science. The only thing that bothers me, only slightly as this is a carton and made for kids, is that there are male fairies (called sparrow men for some silly reason...they are still fairies lol), yet fairies don't procreate...they fall in love though, Tink even had a crush on Peter Pan. Are fairies sterile? That's the only way I can explain that one. Also, the biggest one I can't explain away at all, objects and humans can fly in rain with pixie dust but fairies can't. They have wings but need pixie dust to fly...just like non winged things...what really is the point of them having wings to begin with and why can't they fly if the wings are wet or torn as it's the pixie dust that does all the work. Another confusing thing from the movies is that when Tinkerbell first arrives and Clank and Bobble show her around they fly, for quit a ways, into the winter area without any ill effects and were allowed to...but then in Secret of the Wings they are forbidden in the winter woods and Tink is only there for a very short time before her wings start freezing. Why weren't the banned int he first movie, and why could they stay in the cold longer then than they could later? Also in the first one Tink passes a snowflake, and winter fairies are there, and later it shows winter fairies headed home to winter land after WORKING in the warm side...but in SOTW cold fairies float over to the cold side while warm fairies float to where Tink did. Cold or warm depends on where they land...the reason tinks twin was a cold fairy was because her seed thing got knocked off course. Queen Carion's age is the least of our problems lol
If you want to count ALL Disney fairies, in my opinion The Blue Fairy of Pinnochio is the oldest. In Once Upon a Time she is known as the Original Power. Also it is slightly hinted that The Blue Fairy is Fate, seeing as she is the ONLY one to make sure Pinnochio stayed on the path of good and made Jiminy his conscience.
Tinker Bell movies are FULL of plot holes and in some cases their fairy culture don't make much sense if you put everything together. Which is why I prefer to stick to their culture from books. When the franchise started with the book series it was stated that fairies don't age just like every creature living in Neverland as long as Mother Dove's Egg is safe. Thought that doesn't mean they can't die from other causes. They can easly die from drowning since their wings soak up water and get wightened down, be eaten by a hawk or other wild animals, killed by the natural disaster or something else... And of course they die when a child stops believe in fairies. In the movies no fairy has died of disbelief yet (which is weird to me), though by saying they won't see the Neverbeast again, I think the fairies could mean that by this time most of them (or at least some of them, because 1000 years is a LOT of time) would die not because of an old age but because people stop believing in magic (or something else). C.G. Levine mentioned in her novels more than dozen of fairies that died for different reasons, which included disbelief which was a huge problem for fairies until Prilla (a fairy that can teleport to the Mainland) arrived. But still... There was no situation when a fairy died of an old age. I'm a Disney Fairies fan since the franchise started and I was surprised that the directors of Tinker Bell movies allowed to have old fairies like Dewey or Fairy Mary. For years I believed that at least most of Never fairies look young. They are not born as babies. Even Queen Clarion didn't seem to look that grown up like in the movies. I understand that Fairy Mary (or Gary etc.) can be short, get obese, wear buns that make them look 10 years older (or wear a mustache in sparowmen case)... But get older in appearance? Tinker Bell somehow haven't age in Peter Pan sequel, she just changed her attitude. Movie canons really confuse me. Yes, I'm that type of fan who doesn't believe in aging, breeding or marriage between Never fairies since it was said how fairies are born, live and die (though I accept that they fall in love which doesn't have to be focused on sexual activities).
And because I'm talking about aging, let's movie to this 'not having kids' business in Pixie Hollow. It might be strange that in Disney version Never fairies don't have kids or are born as some teenage looking fairies, while animals living in Neverland might not have such problem (we have baby hawks, baby squirells etc). But it is unknown if fairies can mate this way as animals or people. They are born from innocent baby first laught. Maybe they can do that but that would brake some chain and cause a disaster... Or they just have no idea they can. Maybe they're more pure than us, 'humans'... Or they are just sterile. This is the easiest and the most likely possibility. Still it doesn't have to be the only one.
I'll remain silent about the Winter Fairy Problem. I really don't want to discuss about it because it's nothing but a huge and hard as hell movie plot hole which brings us to nowhere.
About flying without Pixie Dust... It's hard to answer too. I have no idea why fairies can't fly without magic dust. We can only guess. Mainland fairies have Magic Wands as their source of magic, and Never fairies have Pixie Dust. But does that mean they need it too fly if they have wings? It's like in human or wingless animal case, the dust make them lighter so they can fly. In the case of fairies it doesn't make sense. Although penguins also can't fly and they have wings. Maybe the wings of never fairies are too weak to bear the weight of fairy's body. Their wings are a strange mysterious thing. When they are wet they got heavier, when they are get cut they turn hard, when they are cut off a fairy they cristalize and turn into jewels (Rani's example). And they are also too delicate for low temperatures because they can break. That would mean their wings are useless and bring them trouble if a wingless human can fly after being sprinkled with this Fairy Dust... It also brings to my mind another question: Why Rani can't fly with Pixie Dust if she has no wings while it might make fairies lighter? They need to use wings to control their flight? Or the flying stuff comes from the dust only for fairies when they have wings? That's kinda unfair if you ask me, But that are the only answers that I can think about right now. That wings stuff really makes Clarions age the least problem.
Well according to the Nevergirls series, Rani tried to fly, but without her wings, she could not stabilize her self. She was so clumsy that she could not go any where so she gave up trying.