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  • Isabella and Lego Liker
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    04:44, September 2, 2013

    Warning: This is for people who are reading the news and spoilers about frozen, so if you don't care about it, you probably won't find interesting reading it or you won't understand what I am talkinf about, or if you do not want to read any spoilers (about characters and 


    actors / actresses who voice characters) don't go any further.


    Hey, Great people who love frozen,
    I am coming up with a crazy theory about the villain.
    Who is he? (Disney confirmed that the villain won't be Elsa)
    I don't really believe he is Hans, I don't have any proof, obviously, but I don't feel like he could ever be the villain (based on his description and photo).
    Someone said that the villain might be Olaf but he is too cute IMO.
    So the following theory along with the information it was based on it is NOTHING. I somewhere read the information (I don’t even know some of it is true) and I based my theory on it. Something just made me believe this crazy story.
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    I read (don’t remember where) that the villain won't be very 'human'. Since the human is in these - brackets, and there's also I’ve also read that the villain will be twisted like in Wreck it Ralph, I believe that he will be someone with a human form, but not a human in reality.
    I read that the Duke will be voiced by him -> http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Alan_Tudyk , who has voiced King Candy in Wreck-it-Ralp. –Remember this, it’s kind of important.
    Of course that is no proof, because David Ogden Stiers voice (RAT)cliffe in Pocahontas but also Cogsworth, the clock in Beaty and the Beast.
    But wait…wait… it is not the same case. As I said previously he voiced King Candy. Who was King Candy? A Cy-Bug (!!!) in reality. http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/King_Candy
    I am also reminding you this : it will be twisted like Wreck it Ralph.
    So, I believe as lots of you that the villain might be the DUKE. So, what's the big deal? Many of you have said that before.
    The new thing, coming in my mind and it might be the most stupid thing but anyway, is that the Duke might be in reality a snowman. He will fight against Anna and turns into his real form and then how will Anna defeat him? She somehow, along with Elsa’s help, will suddenly melt the ice and spring will come back again. A snowman can’t live in a hot place. So, he will melt. (That is bad for our poor little Olaf, too :’( but that’s another topic)
    So, what do you think on my theory?

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    • TURBOTASTIC!!!

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    • Olaf is definitely not the villain, like you said. He's not villainous. Also he is too silly.

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      Anoone else, coming up with a theory or agreeing with this one?

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    • Frozennerd wrote:
      Warning: This is for people who are reading the news and spoilers about frozen, so if you don't care about it, you probably won't find interesting reading it or you won't understand what I am talkinf about, or if you do not want to read any spoilers (about characters and 


      actors / actresses who voice characters) don't go any further.


      Hey, Great people who love frozen,
      I am coming up with a crazy theory about the villain.
      Who is he? (Disney confirmed that the villain won't be Elsa)
      I don't really believe he is Hans, I don't have any proof, obviously, but I don't feel like he could ever be the villain (based on his description and photo).
      Someone said that the villain might be Olaf but he is too cute IMO.
      So the following theory along with the information it was based on it is NOTHING. I somewhere read the information (I don’t even know some of it is true) and I based my theory on it. Something just made me believe this crazy story.
      ---------
      I read (don’t remember where) that the villain won't be very 'human'. Since the human is in these - brackets, and there's also I’ve also read that the villain will be twisted like in Wreck it Ralph, I believe that he will be someone with a human form, but not a human in reality.
      I read that the Duke will be voiced by him -> http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Alan_Tudyk , who has voiced King Candy in Wreck-it-Ralp. –Remember this, it’s kind of important.
      Of course that is no proof, because David Ogden Stiers voice (RAT)cliffe in Pocahontas but also Cogsworth, the clock in Beaty and the Beast.
      But wait…wait… it is not the same case. As I said previously he voiced King Candy. Who was King Candy? A Cy-Bug (!!!) in reality. http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/King_Candy
      I am also reminding you this : it will be twisted like Wreck it Ralph.
      So, I believe as lots of you that the villain might be the DUKE. So, what's the big deal? Many of you have said that before.
      The new thing, coming in my mind and it might be the most stupid thing but anyway, is that the Duke might be in reality a snowman. He will fight against Anna and turns into his real form and then how will Anna defeat him? She somehow, along with Elsa’s help, will suddenly melt the ice and spring will come back again. A snowman can’t live in a hot place. So, he will melt. (That is bad for our poor little Olaf, too :’( but that’s another topic)
      So, what do you think on my theory?

      Where did you get this theory and where did you hear the Duke would be the villain and how did you knew they would put a duke in Frozen? The Walt Disney Company itself?

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    • Walt Disney, Jr. wrote:
      Frozennerd wrote:
      Warning: This is for people who are reading the news and spoilers about frozen, so if you don't care about it, you probably won't find interesting reading it or you won't understand what I am talkinf about, or if you do not want to read any spoilers (about characters and 


      actors / actresses who voice characters) don't go any further.


      Hey, Great people who love frozen,
      I am coming up with a crazy theory about the villain.
      Who is he? (Disney confirmed that the villain won't be Elsa)
      I don't really believe he is Hans, I don't have any proof, obviously, but I don't feel like he could ever be the villain (based on his description and photo).
      Someone said that the villain might be Olaf but he is too cute IMO.
      So the following theory along with the information it was based on it is NOTHING. I somewhere read the information (I don’t even know some of it is true) and I based my theory on it. Something just made me believe this crazy story.
      ---------
      I read (don’t remember where) that the villain won't be very 'human'. Since the human is in these - brackets, and there's also I’ve also read that the villain will be twisted like in Wreck it Ralph, I believe that he will be someone with a human form, but not a human in reality.
      I read that the Duke will be voiced by him -> http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Alan_Tudyk , who has voiced King Candy in Wreck-it-Ralp. –Remember this, it’s kind of important.
      Of course that is no proof, because David Ogden Stiers voice (RAT)cliffe in Pocahontas but also Cogsworth, the clock in Beaty and the Beast.
      But wait…wait… it is not the same case. As I said previously he voiced King Candy. Who was King Candy? A Cy-Bug (!!!) in reality. http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/King_Candy
      I am also reminding you this : it will be twisted like Wreck it Ralph.
      So, I believe as lots of you that the villain might be the DUKE. So, what's the big deal? Many of you have said that before.
      The new thing, coming in my mind and it might be the most stupid thing but anyway, is that the Duke might be in reality a snowman. He will fight against Anna and turns into his real form and then how will Anna defeat him? She somehow, along with Elsa’s help, will suddenly melt the ice and spring will come back again. A snowman can’t live in a hot place. So, he will melt. (That is bad for our poor little Olaf, too :’( but that’s another topic)
      So, what do you think on my theory?

      Where did you get this theory and where did you hear the Duke would be the villain and how did you knew they would put a duke in Frozen? The Walt Disney Company itself?

      I made up the theory myself.

      Many people claim the Duke is gonna be the villain. Although, there is no proof of him being the villain, he is listed as an official Disney Frozen Character, voiced by Alan Tudyk. Alan Tudyk voiced a villain in the past and since we have no information about the Duke but only the actor who provides his voice it is high likely that he is gonna be the villain. At least in my mind.

      -A dedicated frozen fan

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    • I think it's the snowman demon thing attacking Kristoff, Anna, and Olaf in the Japanese trailer.

                ~Frozen's future #1 fan!

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    • The Duke of Weselton info:

      "What the Duke of Weselton lacks in stature, he makes up for in arrogance and showboating. He’s determined to get close to the new queen—that is, until Elsa’s magical secret is revealed. Then he’s the first to call her a monster and try to turn her own kingdom against her—anything that might help him exploit Arendelle’s tradable goods."


      What do u guys think or say? :)

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    • EdwardDavies1 wrote:
      The Duke of Weselton info:

      "What the Duke of Weselton lacks in stature, he makes up for in arrogance and showboating. He’s determined to get close to the new queen—that is, until Elsa’s magical secret is revealed. Then he’s the first to call her a monster and try to turn her own kingdom against her—anything that might help him exploit Arendelle’s tradable goods."


      What do u guys think or say? :)

      I'd say main antagonist.

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    • EdwardDavies1 wrote:
      The Duke of Weselton info:

      "What the Duke of Weselton lacks in stature, he makes up for in arrogance and showboating. He’s determined to get close to the new queen—that is, until Elsa’s magical secret is revealed. Then he’s the first to call her a monster and try to turn her own kingdom against her—anything that might help him exploit Arendelle’s tradable goods."


      What do u guys think or say? :)

      Definitely not main antagonist - Disney never marketed and confirmed who is truly antagonist before movie premiere. I would say that Hans may be villain. It would be surprise for everyone.

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    • Brzoskwinia wrote:
      EdwardDavies1 wrote:
      The Duke of Weselton info:

      "What the Duke of Weselton lacks in stature, he makes up for in arrogance and showboating. He’s determined to get close to the new queen—that is, until Elsa’s magical secret is revealed. Then he’s the first to call her a monster and try to turn her own kingdom against her—anything that might help him exploit Arendelle’s tradable goods."


      What do u guys think or say? :)

      Definitely not main antagonist - Disney never marketed and confirmed who is truly antagonist before movie premiere. I would say that Hans may be villain. It would be surprise for everyone.

      Perhaps the Duke is the main antagonist, for he seems to be the only villainous main character

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    • "What the Duke of Weselton lacks in stature, he makes up for in arrogance and showboating. He’s determined to get close to the new queen—that is, until Elsa’s magical secret is revealed. Then he’s the first to call her a monster and try to turn her own kingdom against her—anything that might help him exploit Arendelle’s tradable goods."

      and

      "However, at some point in the film, the (real) main villain (hinted to have given Elsa her ice powers in the first place, just to make her look bad) will eventually arrive at Elsa's castle, at which said villain immediately comes upon the snowman guards to see if Elsa is inside the palace. At first the snowmen refuse, but then the villain will respond by attacking them until they finally tell this villain yes. After this, this villain will stab all of the snowmen with the remaining broken shards of the villain's mirror(one of which was responsible for Elsa's transformation), causing them all to become more menacing then ever, and allowing the villain to enter the castle. Upon realizing that Elsa wants to be left alone in her own ice castle to prevent anyone from figuring out her ice powers, the villain will grant her wish by presenting her her own snowmen, now betraying her due to them now seeing her as a "bad queen" to them and beginning to obey the villain, and the snowmen then trap Elsa inside her own castle while they will all escape with the villain to wreak havoc on her birth kingdom. "



      Judging from what the info says here in these paragraphs, what do u guys think or say? To me, I am convinced that the duke of weselton will be the main antagonist because his goal was to first turn the whole kingdom of Arendelle against Elsa and then turn her own snowmen army against her just so he can take over Arendelle for himself.

      What do u guys think or say?

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    • EdwardDavies1 wrote:
      "What the Duke of Weselton lacks in stature, he makes up for in arrogance and showboating. He’s determined to get close to the new queen—that is, until Elsa’s magical secret is revealed. Then he’s the first to call her a monster and try to turn her own kingdom against her—anything that might help him exploit Arendelle’s tradable goods."

      and

      "However, at some point in the film, the (real) main villain (hinted to have given Elsa her ice powers in the first place, just to make her look bad) will eventually arrive at Elsa's castle, at which said villain immediately comes upon the snowman guards to see if Elsa is inside the palace. At first the snowmen refuse, but then the villain will respond by attacking them until they finally tell this villain yes. After this, this villain will stab all of the snowmen with the remaining broken shards of the villain's mirror(one of which was responsible for Elsa's transformation), causing them all to become more menacing then ever, and allowing the villain to enter the castle. Upon realizing that Elsa wants to be left alone in her own ice castle to prevent anyone from figuring out her ice powers, the villain will grant her wish by presenting her her own snowmen, now betraying her due to them now seeing her as a "bad queen" to them and beginning to obey the villain, and the snowmen then trap Elsa inside her own castle while they will all escape with the villain to wreak havoc on her birth kingdom. "



      Judging from what the info says here in these paragraphs, what do u guys think or say? To me, I am convinced that the duke of weselton will be the main antagonist because his goal was to first turn the whole kingdom of Arendelle against Elsa and then turn her own snowmen army against her just so he can take over Arendelle for himself.

      What do u guys think or say?

      Main!

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    • Closing for spoiler protection.

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