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PyroGothNerd

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  • What can i do to have an admin on Rocky and Bullwinkle Wiki?

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    PyroGothNerd
    PyroGothNerd closed this thread because:
    This user keeps pestering me on multiple wikis to get unblocked, but it's not going to work.
    15:31, May 27, 2017
    • YOU. ARE. NEVER. GETTING. BACK. ON. THE. ROCKY. AND. BULLWINKLE. WIKI.

      You are a lousy art thief, you ignored multiple direct warnings, and you lied to us several times. You are banned for life. We gave you chances to redeem yourself, and you blew every single one.

      Stop pestering me on other wikis, because YOU ARE NEVER GETTING BACK ON.

      PS: Your OCs are CRAP.

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  • You a fan of TaleSpin? That's my personal favourite Disney Afternoon show. I couldn't help noticing that most of your editing activity was on the relating pages.

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    • I started watching it recently, mostly for Don Karnage. I watch other episodes, too. I just recently got into it, since I wasn't quite born yet when the show came out.

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  • When uploading new images, be sure to give them clearer headings first before you upload them. Do not leave them in gibberish.

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  • Please don't ever display tantrums on my message walls. All users are expected to behave responsibly, and there will be no misbehaviour or rudeness on my own message walls. Any offenders shall receive a temporal or permanent suspension from the Wikia, depending on the consequences.

    It is understandable that CarsFan3 may have ticked you off, but in my opinion she is one of those users who is irrationally infatuated with the character Mater. An infatuation that makes her rebellious in defending a worship that only exists in her mind. I have already dealt with the situation and I have given CarsFan3 a temporal suspension to reflect on her mistakes.

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    • Again, sorry. I tend to take crap like that personally when it comes to disabilities.

      I've dealt with a lot of people who try to use their disability to get away with things that have nothing to do with their disabilities, and it ticks me off. They just don't think about how their behavior followed by using their disability as an excuse reflects on the rest of us.

      Anyhow, sorry. As you may have guessed, I sometimes let my emotions get the best of me. It's something I need to work on.

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    • That's okay I understand. I too have my moments every once in a while. But as an Administrator I have a responsibility to uphold, so I cannot afford to allow my personal feelings to unduly influence my decisions.

      Anyhow, all is forgiven.

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    • Thank you.

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    • BTW, I found some images of an interview with Jim Cummings from a Talespin comic, where should I put those? If anywhere?

      They're large, and very easy to read.

      One of them is specifically about Don Karnage, and I also plan on using that as a source on the Don Karnage page.

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  • While I do agree with you about not allowing opinions onto articles, I can't say the Bimbettes being prettier than Belle is an opinion. As much as I don't like the idea of bigger boobs and a thinner waist necessarily equating to beauty (not to mention doesn't necessarily always equate to that anyways like you said, as Ariel won first place regarding the Disney's Most Beautiful Heroine, certainly exceeding Belle, and she's of the same bodytype as Belle, meaning flat-chested. Heck, the redhead at the beginning of the song had an even bigger chest and slimmer body, yet her face looked funny.), the problem is that's precisely what's being shown in most things. I'll even cite specific examples:

    • Tecmo/Team Ninja's fighting game franchise Dead or Alive gave several of their female characters extremely big chests and skinny bodies. Honestly, the only character in that franchise that is actually closer to Belle's bodytype is Marie Rose. Heck, it was so well known for this that they actually brought it back by fan demand in Dead or Alive 5 when they were originally planning for a more realistic approach.
    • Same deal with Love Hina, and the only character who isn't a kid who is flat chested is Kanako Urashima, and even she basically has to inflate her chest whenever she morphs).
    • Heck, Battle Vixens, especially Sonsaku Hakufu, was given this appearance.
    • Lara Croft from Tomb Raider had a huge enough chest that even Barbie looked flat chested by comparison.
    • Speaking of which, Barbie was given the same dimensions, and she's geared towards girls.
    • Samus Aran from Metroid also is closer to their bodytype than Belle's.
    • Selena Kyle, aka Catwoman, was even given this appearance in the official coloring book for Batman Returns, even though she wasn't even nearly as good looking in the actual film.
    • Heck, even Pokémon wasn't exempt from this, considering how Electric Tale of Pikachu gave Misty a rack when in the Anime she was explicitly stated to be flat-chested (not to mention aged her up two years compared to her anime self), James cheating by wearing inflatable breasts and actually coming very close to winning first place in the infamous Beauty and the Beach episode (though Misty was implied to have beat him and Jessie after they attacked the show), and, heck, May's overall design in AG (especially considering she was 10 years old), and that was clearly intentional.
    • Also Maron (Krillin's ex-girlfriend) in Dragon Ball Z, having the same dimensions.

    And keep in mind that, with the exception of Samus, Barbie, and technically Selena Kyle, most of the girls there were not blondes (heck, in DOA, there were more raven-haired girls than blondes, same with Love Hina). And it's pretty clear that with at least Dead or Alive, Love Hina, Battle Vixens, and Lara Croft, beauty was the specific intent for the designs (otherwise known as fanservice), so no, it isn't opinion, not in this case anyways (economics certainly doesn't view it as such).

    And actually, I found the Bimbettes designs, especially when comparing them to Belle, to be one of the film's biggest detriments, especially when it's hard to take it seriously with Belle's external beauty being focused on in both the opening song and Gaston's motives, when there were, as the above listings pretty much proved, at least three women who far outranked Belle's beauty. Heck, even worse than that is that the Bimbettes don't even have any internally ugly characteristics aside from crushing on a guy who most certainly did, which actually cheapens the moral when Belle's actions in the film came across as skating very close to the internally ugly territory instead of internally beautiful.

    And for the record, beauty isn't really an opinion, especially when there are quite a few things that have it being factually demonstrated. I mean, you wouldn't consider Grimhilde's witch form or Palpatine "beautiful," would you? After all, if beauty was just opinion and therefore without any true meaning, that would mean they actually were beautiful in those forms even when they clearly weren't. Besides, if the above examples, and by extension, the Bimbettes, weren't considered beautiful at all, they, especially Dead or Alive which is infamous for being among other things a fanservice game especially considering the upleg and the Xtreme Beach series, would most certainly not have sold even half as well.

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    • Maybe it should be put in trivia only as "ironically most would consider the bimbettes more beautiful" rather than flat out saying they are more beautiful

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    • Fair enough, though we might need to get a bit more specific as to who "most" would entail, just so the reader doesn't mistake it for the characters in the film.

      Also, I reinstated the bit about how the triplets weren't actually bad despite technically being aligned with Gaston, because lets face it, at least in the film, they weren't actually shown doing anything truly malicious, unlike Gaston who tried to have a harmless if slightly eccentric man locked up in an asylum under the false pretense of being dangerous specifically to force Belle into marrying him, to say little of his intention to commit murder on the Beast when it became apparent that the latter was loved by Belle.

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    • Weedle McHairybug wrote:
      Fair enough, though we might need to get a bit more specific as to who "most" would entail, just so the reader doesn't mistake it for the characters in the film.

      Also, I reinstated the bit about how the triplets weren't actually bad despite technically being aligned with Gaston, because lets face it, at least in the film, they weren't actually shown doing anything truly malicious, unlike Gaston who tried to have a harmless if slightly eccentric man locked up in an asylum under the false pretense of being dangerous specifically to force Belle into marrying him, to say little of his intention to commit murder on the Beast when it became apparent that the latter was loved by Belle.


      Well, I took that part out because I thought it was obvious that they weren't bad.

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    • PyroGothNerd wrote:

      Weedle McHairybug wrote:
      Fair enough, though we might need to get a bit more specific as to who "most" would entail, just so the reader doesn't mistake it for the characters in the film.

      Also, I reinstated the bit about how the triplets weren't actually bad despite technically being aligned with Gaston, because lets face it, at least in the film, they weren't actually shown doing anything truly malicious, unlike Gaston who tried to have a harmless if slightly eccentric man locked up in an asylum under the false pretense of being dangerous specifically to force Belle into marrying him, to say little of his intention to commit murder on the Beast when it became apparent that the latter was loved by Belle.


      Well, I took that part out because I thought it was obvious that they weren't bad.

      Maybe, but then again, some readers and/or viewers probably would think they were bad just for their association with Gaston, similar to the villagers (who unlike them actually did know enough about Gaston's plan to deduce what it entailed and yet supported him anyways), not to mention, thanks to the frankly horrible way they handled the internal beauty moral, they also might assume they were ugly on the inside just because they were beautiful on the outside (I know I was one who thought the latter was the case, at least, maybe the former as well), so that might be necessary either way. We could move it to the personality section, though.

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